Sitting Ducks – Guest Post
December 16, 2010 by admncc
Here at The Constant Complainer, in addition to my own posts, readers can submit Guest Posts on topics they’d like to complain about. Everyone’s favorite antagonist, NeoConDon, is back with a new Guest Post today. And this topic is very current and scary to a lot of people. Enjoy the discussion and without further adieu, here’s Don…
I’m a gun owner. I also posses a license to carry a concealed and loaded hand gun. If you see me outside of my house, chances are good that I’m armed with at least one gun. I take my gun with me almost everywhere. I go grocery shopping with it. I take it into the bank. I have it with me when I drop my kids off and pick them up from school. With few exceptions, the only time I don’t have it with me is when I see a “no guns allowed” sign. If I see that sign at a business, I take my business elsewhere. I’m going to do whatever I can to avoid becoming a sitting duck.
Of course, the sitting duck is usually quacking in the “safety zones”…like Virginia Tech, or Columbine High School, or just recently…a Panama City School Board meeting. It’s funny that the only person with the guts to do anything was a woman with a purse. You can see that at about one minute into the video. I’m also curious why no one went to their cars to get their guns after this happened…???? If there was ever a perfect example of why we should not be denied our human right to protect ourselves, this is it. Click here to watch the video from the Panama City Shooting (***note from The Constant Complainer – the video involving Clay A. Duke is graphic only at the end during the shootout. And if you’d prefer not to watch the video, click here to read the Fox News story on the incident instead).
And so goes the media’s old discussion of “what can we do to prevent these nut jobs from getting guns?” The answer is absolutely nothing. The responsible thing we can do is let those who want to carry a concealed gun into a school board meeting do so. Just imagine how much different things would have turned out if the Virginia Tech students could carry concealed weapons.
In order to prevent getting into these types of unfortunate situations, there are plenty of things you can do. The first is to get your own gun. You can buy an inexpensive hand gun that is perfect for concealment at your local gun shows and stores, or even online. Before you buy anything, find someone that you know and trust to help you through the buying process. You can also sign up for a class to get your concealed carry permit. You will learn the basic gun laws for your state from trained professionals and local law enforcement, as well as have an opportunity to shoot at a range. Just because you take the class doesn’t mean you must buy a gun, or get your permit. You may decide that gun ownership isn’t for you. If that’s the case, there are still things you can do to help prevent becoming a sitting duck.
The easiest thing to do is to pay attention to the businesses you frequent. Do they have the “no guns allowed” signs? If they do, that is a place you should choose to avoid. Typically, people that have the intention to do harm will do it there. Conceal carry holders have a strange habit of following the law and won’t take their gun into these establishments. That makes the criminal more likely to be able to do whatever he wants. You are much less likely to run into a shooter in a gun friendly establishment, and if you do, there is a far better chance that someone else has a gun with them for self defense. That’s usually how I handle things when I don’t have my gun with me. I am much more comfortable sitting down unarmed with my kids for lunch in a locally owned diner that permits guns than going into the typical chain restaurant that is a “gun-free zone.”
In the end, it is not the responsibility of the police or the gov’t to protect you or your family; it is your responsibility. With a little forethought, you can keep yourself safe. Good luck. I hope you’re never become a sitting duck.
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All I have to say to this post is AMEN Brother!!!
Personally I do not carry at the moment, but have been really reevaluating my choice. Just for clarity, it is not because of being against the issue, I have always been for it, I have just not wanted to go through all of the effort of getting the permit. Being a former Marine, I have had extensive training in the use of various weapons, and fell more than qualified to handle such tactical situations.
I have also lived and worked in undesirable neighborhoods where the evidence is clear, the bad guys have full access to any weapon you can imagine and gun control only hurts law abiding citizens.
I would also like to point out that your federal government promotes this in airline travel through the use of Air Marshals and many airline pilots carry. Remember,the bad guys only target whom they think are weak and defenseless!
However, the requirements to carry should involve proper and extensive training not only in shooting, but tactical and strategic decision making. It is better to avoid being in the situation, but when avoidance is not an option, then the use of a fire arm in any situation is only to be the last resort and can hopefully be used as a stronger deterrent.
In conclusion, I totally support citizens carrying and fully against gun control. Lets let the bad guys out their think twice before attacking the innocent.
WTF? Is this a post to pull me out of my cave? You will feel totally different when/if your life is touched by gun violence. You will see my point of view when you have any trauma in your life. A conservative is a liberal who has never had a trauma in their life… FU, NCD! Is your penis that small that you need to compensate by carrying a gun where ever you go?
In my opinion the amount of people out there who agree with NeoConDon is growing. Some people will say that’s good and some people will say that’s bad.
I have never had a problem with the right to bear arms, but I did have some concern when all of the gun legislation starting popping up a few years back – not because I care who has a gun or not, but because I worry about idiots and lunatics pulling it out and shooting other people.
While I agree with NeoConDon that upstanding conceal/carry holders are respectful of the laws, an idiot like the guy in the video doesn’t care. He was clearly irrational, spoke of knowing he was going to die and said he didn’t care in the video.
Some of these random acts of violence are difficult to understand. But believe it or not, with as many of these situations being reported, I have never once seen or heard about a situation being broken up or stopped just because a conceal/carry gun holder happened to be there and shot the suspect to save the day.
What was that famous song lyric? “Protect yourself. Check yourself.” LOL. Something like that, right NeoConDon?
Here you go Hal…here are a dozen or so specific examples where a gun owner has saved the day. But this is just Ohio in 2010. There are plenty other examples out there. There are plenty more situations where permit holders were rendered helpless because they were in a “gun-free” zone when the bad guys showed themselves…Those are the situations where innocent people were murdered.
http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2010/07/26/would-be-robber-shot-by-potential-victim.html?sid=101
http://www.fox8.com/news/wjw-elyria-robbery-txt,0,6139707.story
http://www.indeonline.com/features/x1615404505/Man-shot-in-groin-on-Massillons-southeast-side-police-investigating
http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/crime/landlord-shoots-former-resident-who-pinned-him-against-building-with-car-984609.html
http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/7458
http://medinagazette.northcoastnow.com/2010/09/21/gun-carriers-intervene-stop-beating-in-parking-lot/
http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/7231
http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2010/03/28/man-killed-during-break-in-attempt.html?sid=101
http://www.toledoblade.com/article/20100222/NEWS02/2220327/-1/ARCHIVES30
http://www.10tv.com/live/content/local/stories/2010/03/17/story_atm_vigilante.html?sid=102
http://toledoblade.com/article/20100312/NEWS02/100319821/0/RSS04
http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/7149
http://starbeacon.com/local/x626760048/Intruder-occupant-exchange-gunshots
Let’s see Zig…there are two possible ways that my life can be touched by gun violence…either me, or someone I love is attacked by a gun toting nut-job, and we pull out our concealed handgun and kill the perp, or (2), me or my loved one was in a “gun-safe zone”, and we get shot and are pissed because we didn’t have our gun with us…
Ncd, how about this…one of your teenage sons is at school and some strungout kid walks in and puts a bullet through your son’s head… better yet, a kid with a gun permit walks through the door, after a bad breakup with an ex and puts a bullet right between your son’s eyes a s he dies instantly…trauma!
I’m curious why you think either situation would change my opinion on carrying a gun. What it does is strengthen my argument that each classroom should have a gun so the teacher can defend themselves and their students. In the second situation, is my son at school, or home? If he’s at home, how old is he? Sounds like he’s in a “gun-safe zone” in either case, and it proves that gun safe zones aren’t safe…It also proves that the problem isn’t the gun, but the person shooting it, and the stupid law that prevents us from defending ourselves in schools.
But don’t worry Zig. If you and I are hanging out and someone starts shooting, I’ll wait until you’re dead to start shooting back.
I want to start off that I do not have a PTCC, however, I am an advocate of those that do.
I have grown up around guns all of my life, and know that you should never point one at anything you don’t intend to kill. Those who have obtained the rights to carry concealed have atleast proven to the authorities that they have the mental capacity to do so. My father has a PTCC and typically has it on him, as he is an older gentleman and his ability to physically defend himself has been diminished. He has never actually had to brandish said weapon, however in the even that he does, it is there.
I have thought about it recently with a shift in employment and location, however at this point I will maintain duck status. Not sitting, as I typically adhere to your advice of avoiding no gun sign shops. My heart goes out to anyone who has been affected by violence inflicted by some piece of street grease who needed their next fix, or had a “bad day”.
NCD, you are neither smart or have you grown up around guns. Yo are just convinced that the Government is out to get you. You are what is called a dillusional FREAK!
What if your son is sitting in class and a whackjob from nearby East Cleveland comes in with grudge against your son’s classmate. We’ll call your son’s classmate Q. Because EC is not the best neighborhood, this kid has a gun (he took from his father’s, a PTCC carrier, lockbox) and is intent upon finding revenge on Q. The father is scared for his family’s safety and bought a gun and took classes to protect his family. Your son, being the studious kid, was intently reading his lessons and doesn’t hear the whackjob telling everyone in the hallway to get to the ground. Your son stands up, looks out into the hallway and says, “What is going on here?” To which Q replies, “You, Futha Fucker!” Q rips off 3 rounds. One finds the back wall of a classroom and bounces off to break a nearby window. Another hits the door, through which Whackjob will be walking looking for Q. The third find your son, right between the eyes. He didn’t ask to be a victim of gun violence. Your son didn’t even go to school that day with the intent of staying the whole day. (Your son is a potsmoking, meth addict who just drifts in and out of school and can’t stay in more that on place for very long) He was going to his one class, English, before he met his parole officer and was released from school to work at the dayold bread store on Chagrin Ave.
Now, this is just a stupid fictional joke. But, beacause the whackjob’s father was a PTCC carrier, he had access to a gun.
I hope this never happens to anyone I know. Especially, someone I know and from our Brotherhood. But, while people are allowed to, legally, walk the streets of this urban environment with gun, it will always be a possiblity.
So, put down your guns and give your all your sons a hug for me! Tell them you are glad they are alive!
The boy had access to a gun whether or not his dad had a permit. Guns are pretty easy to get. Don’t forget Zig, the permit and the gun didn’t kill my son, boy from EC did…
I hug my kids all the time…especially when they hit a bulls-eye at the shooting range with me!
I am all for the right to carry. but dont you think your taking it to the extreme? Just wondering.
I dont personally own a gun.
BUt I do own pepper spray and a taser.
That is all I need for when I am without my linebacker size husband.
I love how your post is written like a “How To” instruction manual. And right there, boys and girls, is how to protect yourselves from the bad guys of the world…
How’s that old saying go? Guns don’t kill people, people kill people. If “they” made it illegal to carry and protect oneself, then only the criminals will have guns and crime will really run rampant. I think if we were allowed to shoot the scum bags and nut jobs that attack us in places where we have a reasonable right to expect we are safe, then the scum bags and nut jobs might be less apt to do the scum bag-nut job things they do.
In this day and age where the crazy people are pitied and given half-assed treatment, and the criminals aren’t locked up because jails are over-crowded and judges are crooked, I say it’s better to be prepared and able to protect oneself and your loved ones.
What Zig doesn’t seem to understand is that kid had a lot of problems. And if his dad hadn’t had a gun he could steal he would have found one somewhere else. And there are a lot of people (“dirt bags”)out there who have no scruples and would sell a gun to a 15 year old kid. If he couldn’t find a gun he could have gotten on the internet and found out how to make bombs. Or Molotov cocktails. Or whatever he could have to get what he wanted.
We need to take care of our kids so they don’t turn into dirt bags and nut jobs. But until people learn how to be responsible adults that create responsible, thinking kids, I – for one- will keep my Desert Eagle close to my heart.